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[Mattsetback]

How can sweden/uk know he won't get the death penalty if they don't know what he'll be charged with? He's still yet to be charged.

[Ruin]

He's still got his insurance files, I'll be interested to see what happens with that if he does end up being taken to the US.

[Milli Vanilli]

he's a very silly boy.

[Mattsetback]

He's still got his insurance files, I'll be interested to see what happens with that if he does end up being taken to the US.

They'll continue trying to discredit him so people ignore the files. Basically.

[Ruin]

He's still got his insurance files, I'll be interested to see what happens with that if he does end up being taken to the US.

They'll continue trying to discredit him so people ignore the files. Basically.

Yeah but I think people who can see through that, are gonna wanna see them regardless, and depending on the files, the information is probably irreversibly damaging.
I was saying to my mate Mike, it'd be brilliant if it was just a bluff.

[Milli Vanilli]

the wise guardian readers will see through te smoke screen and the flim flam and see the truth at the heart of the matter

[BennytheBigDog]

The Guardian is actually in support of his extradition.

[Milli Vanilli]

shit. did not know that.

[trailer_park_jesus]

milli's whole view of the world unravels before him.

[Careen]

1. There are different degrees of rape. Anti-rape charities strongly disagree with this but I happen to agree here. Violent rape would be worse than raping someone too drunk to consent, for example.

Wow. I sometimes forget that people are this stupid. There are not different degrees of rape. There's no debate about it.

[Bassmonger]

Rape is rape, but given that sentences can vary greatly from case to case, it's fair to say that judges do perceive differences in severity dependent on the circumstances.

Hopefully, this means that you're both wrong.

[Careen]

I wasn't talking about the judicial system, the act itself.

[Milli Vanilli]

milli's whole view of the world unravels before him.

yeah i have no idea what is going on here. i don't lie this brave new world

[Milli Vanilli]

1. There are different degrees of rape. Anti-rape charities strongly disagree with this but I happen to agree here. Violent rape would be worse than raping someone too drunk to consent, for example.

Wow. I sometimes forget that people are this stupid. There are not different degrees of rape. There's no debate about it.

i think he means that it all depends on the size of the man's penis. if he's playing last sausage in the tin and not even touching the sides it shouldn't be more than some kind of community service

[yeah and what]

He didn't condone the act, he said that some cases are more severe than others, which they are, neither are right and both are disgusting but one is arguable more horrific than the other so is a different degree in a sense, its not excusing the act though in either case, I hope that's what he is thinking anyway.

[Careen]

I understand what he meant. I'm saying how can anybody say that one rape is worse than the other? It boggles the mind.

[yeah and what]

Just the way i'd argue that a person murdered by one stab wound probably isn't as bad as a case where a person has 100 plus stab wounds. They're both murder but the application of it makes one worse than the other, it does to me anyway, well seem worse, I don't know really know actually thinking about it now. Confused myself, a common occurance.

[Careen]

Rape is a violent act regardless of whether the victim gets beaten up and dragged into some bushes, or gets drugged and wakes up after the event.

[Bassmonger]

I completely agree with you that rape is a horrible violent crime, regardless of circumstances. But you're still a bit wrong: http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sent ... l/s1_rape/

[Byronchenko]

I wonder what Alan Pardew thinks of it all.

[Careen]

I ruddy well shouldn't be though

[Bassmonger]

I wonder what Alan Pardew thinks of it all.

Exactly. And on a similar note, there's still United fans on message boards practically defending Evans, refusing to see how he could be found guilty. Football fans really can be stupid at times. Well, most of the time.

[nonamethanks]

I think Galloway's point is easily misinterpretted but is twofold.

1. There are different degrees of rape. Anti-rape charities strongly disagree with this but I happen to agree here. Violent rape would be worse than raping someone too drunk to consent, for example. In the latter example, as discussed in another thread, the line between consentual, taking advantage of someone, and rape can be very blurry.

"Look on the bright side, love. At least he didn't hold a knife to your throat or punch you in the face a few times".

Even if you were right, which you aren't, that isn't what Galloway was saying anyway. He said having sex with someone while they're asleep isn't rape at all, not that it's just some kind of rape-lite.

2. An act which could be construed as rape is not always rape. If your partner enjoys being woken up by you having sex with them, requests it or consents to it, then it would not be rape. Essentially, any rape fantasy or rape scenario consented to is not actually rape. Another example would be rough and violent sex, akin to what might occur in a rape, but is consentual and thus not rape.

What's your point here? That consensual sex isn't rape? Amazing.

[Tom Aylott]

obviously rape is rape. it's a fairly definite that it means non consensual sex with another person. what all these old dudes seem to mean but put their foot in their mouth over is that there's one term for a fairly broad range of nasty sexual acts.

whoever mentioned that a judge will give different sentences based on severity made the only point that matters. rape is rape, and a judge will decide how much punishment that there is for the crime.

[nick_asfar]

I wonder what Alan Pardew thinks of it all.

Exactly. And on a similar note, there's still United fans on message boards practically defending Evans, refusing to see how he could be found guilty. Football fans really can be stupid at times. Well, most of the time.

i was tweeted at by a 15-year-old Blades fan with #Justice4Ched in his description a few weeks back. The mind boggles.