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Re: June football

Postby Wrecktheplacefantastic » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:16 pm

I dunno, it's difficult to compare Arsenal winning the league at Anfield and City winning it last season. Even as a United fan, it was definitely the most thrilling title race I can remember. The City game was awful to watch, but it was quite a turn of events. United were essentially champions when full time blew at the Stadium of Light, only for City to win it with what was essentially the last kick of the game a couple of minutes later. I think everyone expected City to pummel QPR, but they went 2-1 up and then parked the bus. It was a huge defecit to turn over. I can't think of any trophy that was won and lost with the last kick of the game. It was compared to the CL final in 99, but even that wasn't lost with the last kick. If United hadn't have gotten a second goal, it would have gone to extra time, so it wasn't completely over. Aguero's goal proved to be arguably the most important goal of the season. It was gutting, but I can't remember any season ending in such a way.
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Re: June football

Postby <3 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:32 pm

Luckie_st wrote:QPR stayed up.

Yeah I R ignorant.

Wrecktheplacefantastic wrote:
Sure, it's entirely subjective and I'm also biased as I said - it's certainly not even an even that's properly in my memory. I was 6 and vaguely remember everyone going mental as my family were all together listening to the radio.

It just seems at least comparable if not more of a challenge. It might not have been the last kick of the game but it was within about 20 seconds.
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Re: June football

Postby Wrecktheplacefantastic » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:50 pm

I didn't realise the winning Arsenal goal was so late on. Certainly comparable then. Aguero's goal wasn't technically the last kick either, but all that followed was QPR kicking off, hoofing it to Joe Hart and Joe Hart seeing out the next few seconds before full time. It was the last kick that had any sort of purpose, I suppose, and it was full time less than 10 seconds later.

I imagine the excitement is certainly subjective depending on if you have any significant vested interested in the result, though both were quite extraordinary for the neutral as well.
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Re: June football

Postby <3 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:52 pm

Yeah they kicked off Thomas intercepted and passed back to the keeper and that was time.
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Re: June football

Postby Duncan » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:54 pm

Wrecktheplacefantastic wrote:I didn't realise the winning Arsenal goal was so late on.


Have you not seen Fever Pitch? Obviously not a Colin Firth fan.
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Re: June football

Postby Shoddyrob » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:57 pm

I think the 1989 one was bigger, to have happened at Anfield against Liverpool to beat them to the title on goals scored is pretty hard to beat
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Re: June football

Postby yeah and what » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:31 pm

Last seasons end was amazing mainly due to the look on the United players/fans face when the news of the winner came in, Phil Jones face in particular.
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Re: June football

Postby Wrecktheplacefantastic » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:45 pm

Phil Jones' face, on any occasion, is quite a spectacle. What an unfathomable mug he's got.

I still think it's difficult to decide which was bigger. Obviously subjective, as has been said. This seasons climax was major as it was City's first title in the Premier League era, toppling United who have dominated the Premier League era. They looked like they had thrown it away on a few occasions too, especially after the Arteta goal at Arsenal, and then falling behind to QPR in that game.

Beating Liverpool on their own turf in their era of dominance is massive too. Then again, I was only 4, I think, when that happened so I wasn't really there to witness the excitement, which is a shame, as I love it when Liverpool get beaten. In my memory of football, City winning it last season was definitely the most exciting title race I've witnessed, as horrible as it was. I watched it in a pub with a surprising amount of Scottish people in City shirts. Weird.
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Re: June football

Postby Byronchenko » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:46 pm

<3 wrote:The most annoying thing about all the general "most exciting" shite etc was this season and how they were saying it was the best end to a season *ever*. It might have been the best end to a premiership season, and I'm probably biased, but I think having to go to Anfield on the last day of the season and have to win by two clear goals against favourites Liverpool to win the league instead of them, and managing that in the last minute of the game was probably a bit more exciting than beating already relegated QPR at home.


What would have happened if Arsenal won by two unclear goals?
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Re: June football

Postby -adam- » Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:47 pm

The real best end to the season was last year when Pavlyuchenko scored with literally the last kick of the season to give me the predictions league title.
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Re: June football

Postby -adam- » Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:03 pm

Oh apparantly we're being taken over by some Kuwaitis. I imagine they couldn't resist the thought of rolling up to Fleetwood Town to watch our squad of 10 players lose on a wet Monday night.

I'm praying they'll tempt one of Sven, McLeish or Kean in to lend their imperious managerial talents to the cause.

It can't possibly go wrong, Champions League in 3 years.
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Re: June football

Postby Shoddyrob » Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:22 pm

-adam- wrote:The real best end to the season was last year when Pavlyuchenko scored with literally the last kick of the season to give me the predictions league title.


This was brilliant because it meant Jack didn't win. Amazing drama
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Re: June football

Postby Danathon » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:04 pm

Personally think the Arsenal 89 just shaded City 12 as the more impressive feat. Both titles came down to the last game of the season, though Arsenal had the stronger opponent (the league leadets no less) and a win alone wasn't enough to win the title (needed 2 clear goals to win). Both had comparable last gasp goals, so would say the viewing experience/excitement was on par, the feat slightly different. Am an Arsenal fan mind!
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Re: June football

Postby Wilcox » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:10 pm

Division 3 1999.
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Re: June football

Postby Byronchenko » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:12 pm

Definitely.
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Re: June football

Postby Wilcox » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:15 pm

I mean, Byron bias aside, come on!

The last kick of the football league season, a football matter of life or death, do or die and a bloke on loan from Swindon to Carlisle who played three games for the club became the biggest cult hero Carlisle will ever have. Astonishing.
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Re: June football

Postby Shoddyrob » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:26 pm

Don't get him started
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Re: June football

Postby <3 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:27 am

Byronchenko wrote:
<3 wrote:The most annoying thing about all the general "most exciting" shite etc was this season and how they were saying it was the best end to a season *ever*. It might have been the best end to a premiership season, and I'm probably biased, but I think having to go to Anfield on the last day of the season and have to win by two clear goals against favourites Liverpool to win the league instead of them, and managing that in the last minute of the game was probably a bit more exciting than beating already relegated QPR at home.


What would have happened if Arsenal won by two unclear goals?

Liverpool would have started a petition for goal line technology.
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Re: June football

Postby Bassmonger » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:34 am

Last season is best, because the team that was second won and got the championship, and the team that was already relegated lost and stayed up. Quite remarkable, Brian.
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Re: June football

Postby Phil Collins » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:43 am

Platini's an ignorant fucktard as always, then.
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Re: June football

Postby Byronchenko » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:57 am

Bassmonger wrote:Last season is best, because the team that was second won and got the championship, and the team that was already relegated lost and stayed up. Quite remarkable, Brian.


It'd have been better if the losing team went down though, the contrast of emotions would have added to it.

As has already been said, nothing will beat Jimmy Glass.
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Re: June football

Postby -adam- » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:00 am

I've read Jimmy Glass' book, it's brilliant.
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Re: June football

Postby Byronchenko » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:10 am

It really is, his Crystal Palace tale of calling Andy Cole a 'big time twat' (I think) at Wembley was outstanding. Great bloke.
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Re: June football

Postby -adam- » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:17 am

Ah yes I was trying to remember some of the best bits and the parts about his time at Palace is superb. Such an insight.
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Re: June football

Postby BennytheBigDog » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:19 am

First division clubs Hamilton, Morton, Dunfermline, Falkirk, and 2 others I can't remember have said that won't vote to parachute NewCo into the First Division. They were also critical of the letter and using league reform as a bargaining tool. Which I can't agree with enough, fair play to them. None of them have ruled out voting NewCo into Div 3 and I could see them getting that as they're good candidates. Though there are other clubs such as Spartans that have been waiting in line for longer. League reform should still go ahead to partially remedy this.
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